Bonus - A Chat With Liz Hancock - The EFT Coach

Faye Casement Author

Mar 22, 2023 |

Faye: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another bonus episode of The Wellness for Women's Show. And in today's session, all I am going to be talking to the lovely Liz Hancock, AKA The EFT coach.

She helps to transform women entrepreneurs who find it difficult to charge their worth, as well as those who've been left with scars from divorce and who lack confidence and self-worth. So welcome, Liz. Nice to have you with us.

Liz: Thank you so much, Faye. Thank you. It’s lovely to be here. I'm very excited.

Faye: Good, good, good. Well, you're my second, well, second official interview-style guest, so this is all quite new to me, so you have to bear with me as well while we, while we go through things. And, and half the battle is trying to say other people's names and what they do when you're not used to saying. Yeah. Hundred percent. But no, it's absolutely lovely to have you here. So, for, for the purposes of those who are listening, Liz and I really only met in the past couple of weeks and we've had a little chat offline. But other than that well, we say little, it was meant to be sort of a little chat, and then we were just , well, we probably should go ​ about an hour and hour later. It was a good hour, wasn't it?
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Liz: Yeah. Yeah.
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Faye: But for the purposes of the show, we'll try and keep it to about 30 minutes tops and give everybody a chance to get on with their evenings. So uh, yeah, but it's just we're both geeking out on our relative of each on our topics, isn't it? And, we're obviously both very passionate with regard to what we do. Yes. So tell us a little bit about, a little bit more about you then, Liz. ​ What is it that you, what is it that you do in your own words rather than me saying it ?

Liz: Sure, sure. So I just love, I'm not obsessed with money, but I am obsessed with the mindset around money. One of the reasons is it's not much to do with money. It's because money's just a really easy way to get to it. People think they need healing for money wounds and stuff as they realize how it impacts their business and how it impacts their standard of living and all that kind of stuff. But actually usually pretty quickly we are getting into “I didn't feel good enough when I was a child”; “I thought that if I was really successful then I might upset my dad”, they don't actually say this, this is a subconscious thought that they have or, you know, I can't be better than my parents because then that's almost shaming them. It's going against them and not being respectful to their struggle, if you.

So as soon as I start working on a money thing, it's not really about the money. It's all about childhood. ​ Not feeling good enough. And if you're not feeling good enough, then you know, when I talk about money or say savings, if someone says, “I haven't got enough”, that very easily and quickly gets translated to “I'm not good enough”, or “I'm not enough". Yeah. And that's what we need to work on
I've now added the relationship stuff into it as well is because when I went through my divorce I thought I managed the whole financial stuff quite well. Marriage is about love and divorce is usually about money. Nearly always money. And, the kids, ideally it should be about the kids first and foremost, but often they are wrapped up in the money issues. And so I took myself through my process that I'd done for my money mindset with regard to business. I tweaked them for going through my divorce and a lot of old stuff came up that I thought I healed from, from my childhood then I had new ways of looking at it, new layers and nuances. But it was just so effective. And it gave me the strength to do what I was doing, which was getting a pretty good deal. I was just so dedicated to getting a roof over me and my kids' house. I wouldn't say I fought tooth and nail, but I negotiated, well, I stood in my power.
Since then, things have got a bit complicated, but we won't go into that unless you want me to, but point is it wasn't just about the money. ​ It was the relationship, it was about the feelings of betrayal. And I'm not talking about affairs here, but you know, betrayal of that person not being who I thought, mourning the life you always thought you were going have, that you suddenly realized you weren't going have and grieving for the relationship and so much of that stuff. So and that's why I just love what I do and with EFT, well with anything that we do. You always have to niche, don't you? It took me a long time to find my real love. I did do weight loss and body image for quite a while, which I still love but it's the money and the relationship wounds now that I could just talk about it all day. Sorry!

Faye: No, no, no. We're here to hear everything about, about you. And I know that was one of the things that the ladies my membership said to me last week was that, oh, you could have asked how she got into such and such, how Melanie, who we had last week, how she got into doing what she's doing.

So I needed to make sure that they asked that. But I think you're kind of covering that, but I don't know if there's anything else that you would add in terms of how you got into coaching? When we met we also shared the fact that we are from HR backgrounds. ​ Business and corporate backgrounds as well. So we were quite similar in that sense. 
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Liz: Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So yeah, the coaching, I did very traditional HR at first, worked up from being an HR administrator, lots of. , well, hiring and firing I guess, but it wasn't, you know, that sounds a bit blase, but you know, all the sort of transactional stuff, grievances, disciplinaries, all that kind of stuff.

And later on, the training development and the management development and then being trained by outside coaches who were quite forward thinking, really opened my eyes and gave me a lot of skill and now I combine that with EFT now. So for anyone that's listening, going, what on earth is EFT stands for? Emotional Freedom Technique. ​ It's also known as tapping. And you might have seen people, if you're listening to this, you won't see what I'm doing, but they tap on their acupressure points, just various points around the face and neck and head, and sometimes arms, hands as well. Boy George was doing it on I'm a Celebrity. ​ Prince. Harry's been seen doing it and talking about it. ​ But when I started, gosh, over, oh, my son's nearly 13, so I discovered it about 13 years ago now when I was pregnant with him. ​ I’d had a pretty traumatic birth with my daughter. I'd seen an advert for a birth trauma workshop, signed up, went along. ​ I was a bit late. ​ I'm always late for things and. I walked in and these people were doing this weird thing and I just thought, what the hell is this? And I probably would've ran away, but I was so big being really pregnant with a massive baby that I didn't, and I stayed and within 20 minutes of me being paired up with someone, I had no trauma left at all from my birth experience.

Faye: Wow.

Liz: And I was booked in for a c-section with my son. It was all arranged. And I said, you know what? I actually, I think I’ll give it another go doing it naturally. And I did, I laboured at home for 17 hours and I went into hospital for the last two. I had a waterbirth in the end. I did have a lot of gas and air! I was horrified to hear recently they've stopped giving it in some hospitals. And I did scream the place down so it wasn't all, flowers and you know, music and there's a lot of screaming. But I did it naturally and it was the most amazing experience of my life. ​ Actually when I realized, wow, I'm actually giving birth to a baby.

It's not being ripped out of me. It was so amazing. I'll tell you a funny story, it's a bit gross, but because with my daughter, I passed out after having her. I was really out of it and thought I was dying. I remember, I felt ​ I was falling and floating at the top of the room. So I thought I must be going to hell cause I'm falling. So it was, it was pretty horrible. And my husband thought I was dying because I was passed out and they were pumping me with loads of stuff. But with Josh they got me out the pool and then on this birthing stool because I had to deliver the placenta. Now I didn't did do that before, I was passed out for it. So when that happened, I thought I was having another baby. Oh goodness. I thought I’m having twins. I was just like, what on earth is happening. ​ They didn't think to explain it to me because they didn't know what happened before.
So yeah, I mean, it was funny, it wasn't traumatic, but it was just such a surprise. And yeah, it was an amazing birth, but the placenta it was a bit gross and a bit shocking. So sorry for any men listening

Faye: No, no, you're alright it’s mostly women in theory listening, but you never, you never know. And yeah, and then I'm sure then they'll soon be like “I dived in for money and bit of weight loss”. (laughter)

I think birth stories especially, I mean, I've got a birth story. I've got a 16 year old daughter. My birth story is quite a funny one in one sense as well. I was literally, I nearly gave birth in the hospital, car park .

Liz: Oh wow.
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Faye: So mine was a bit of the opposite really. It was, it was all relatively quick. But I actually, then suffered from postnatal depression after. ​ I think from the trauma almost of the birth and the speed, and think ‘I'm not ready for this. I was joking in the hospital that they didn't give me the manual and the dead pan nurses were not laughing along with me and I'm just feeling stupider and stupider, you know? And I think it's a hard time for anybody when they give birth, but let alone if there have been other circumstances going in and around it. And I obviously didn't have coaching then and wasn’t dabbling with EFT.

I've actually just signed up to become a Belief Coding ®️ Facilitator, which is a relatively new modality, but I had some done on me and it's just been mind-blowing, same as what you had really with the EFT and releasing things that you didn't really know to release.
And I'd like to think that if I had all of these tools in my toolbox back thenor for various other chunks of my life, you know, my life might have been different. ​ I might not have even got divorced, for example. Who knows? You know, I'm not talking about going back or anything. ​ I have a very good relationship, luckily with my ex-husband and it's all amazing. So I'm very lucky in that sense but you can't help but just wonder what life would be like if you'd have found these things earlier.

Liz: No, I agree. I think sometimes. and if we'd found them earlier and just allowed that. Allowed that sort of sense of self-acceptance and self-love. ​ When were we ever taught that in school or by our parents? ​ It just didn't happen. ​ It’s nothing against them. They didn't know either. Our children, I know they go through, I think they go through a lot more than what we did perhaps, or at least more external influences perhaps like social media and stuff. But at least we've, we've got the wherewithal to go. Okay. I'm not saying I can help my daughter. I know my daughter will probably need therapy. Well, she's had some actually, so she'll need it, for quite a while. More with the breakup and everything. But to, be really supportive of that and to say, okay, well that's not working. Why don't we try this? She's so anti EFT at the moment. I hope it's just a phase. She did a video for me when she was in Year One about tapping with a bear and stuff. It's so super cute. Oh. But she hates me that it's still on YouTube. ​ At least we can say, okay, well I'll completely support you in your journey and perhaps try this or whatever you try, I will support you. ​ I think that's the greatest gift we can give our children is showing them and admitting when we are not okay and when we need some help. Not expecting to get it from them, but. I'm showing them that you can access it from other people, and it's all right for them to do that as well.

And for us to let go of our egos and go, you know what, maybe I can't help my kid on this occasion. Someone else needs to.But to allow that to happen without that damaging you and having a “oh, I'm a shit mom”, when I'm not, you know, all this internal dialogue that is so, well, I know my mom used to, anytime I’d say anything she’d say “Oh, it's all my fault”, “Everything's my fault”. And I’d be like, no, it's not but when you say that, it feels like it is. It just perpetuates it, doesn't it?
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Faye: Yeah. Yeah. It certainly is difficult and I think my mind's been opened more to, what we say around our children. Especially with the weight loss with, with what I do, you know, I, I kind of can't help but think of all the kiddies who are living with parents who feel restriction and extreme restriction are the only way, when it's not. ​ What they're learning and what we are passing through and part of the work on the beliefs that I'm going to start doing with the Belief Coding®️ that I was talking to people about this week is generational what is called a generational trauma. It’s just as you say, it wasn't that our parents did anything on purpose, we all do the best we can do in any given moment but they didn’t know because there wasn't this same kind of talk and dialogue.

I was having a conversation with them this week and it baffles them a little bit when I'm talking about this. My Dad's just says, my mind's completely blown but you know, you do you! Whereas with out children, they may then have the benefit of, of some of this.

I know my daughter's benefited from the work I've done on myself and when I, was worried about her becoming a teenager. One of the beliefs I had, because again, we all hear that the teenage years are the worst years and all these kind of things, every parent goes into the teenage years with this belief thinking it's going to be the most horrendous time in the world. That our kids are just going to leach of us for the rest of our lives. ​ And actually, if we're going in with that mindset then that's what we're going to see, isn't it? You know, with the whole yellow car syndrome that if you go in thinking that your kids are going to be horrible, then maybe actually we are perpetuating that?

I made the decision that I was going to come into our relationship with compassion and love. So if, there were ups and downs as you would expect from teenage years I wanted to approach those with compassion. I also know myself well enough and I've communicated that to my daughter. ​ If you want me to fire up, then accuse me of doing something I've not done. So, she might say why didn't YOU tell me not to do something? And it'll be like, well, that's not my fault and I know I can get quite defensive.

Whereas in having the awareness about my defensiveness means I've been able to tone that down and then also step back and step away from a situation because I've learned how to communicate better as a result of my coaching and self-coaching and because I know myself better, I've been able to say to her, look, if this happens,this is the way to handle me. If you want the best out of this relationship, this is the way to work and I encourage her to do the same and it's definitely made a huge difference to us. And so, you know, the power of coaching is just amazing. It's huge, isn't it? ​ And the EFT as well. Let's say I've been doubting myself. From a coach and a life coach point of view, we work a lot on our thoughts, because our thoughts lead to the feelings, lead to the actions but sometimes I think it's quite hard for people to build in the thought work. ​ They can get to the point where they can capture it, don’t know how to cement in the new thought. ​ To start that proper, well, not the proper, to start the thought cycle that serves us. I actually think EFT is actually a really good way of doing that because you have this intense session with yourself where you're coding it in, aren't you?

Liz: Yeah, a hundred percent. It works so beautifully with affirmations. ​ What I'm really passionate about is, I love law of attraction and, and all of that stuff, but I think we've got to really acknowledge when we are not feeling great and often our belief isn't true, so, therefore, I'm just going change that belief by rewording it and saying something else. But actually what we need to do is say that belief out loud while we're tapping because then it loses its power and suddenly you realize subconsciously, and consciously, that it's rubbish. If you're just pushing it away and putting it in a box and shutting the box down, it's just there literally like ​ a Jack in the box wanting to pop up. When you do that, that's when it causes problems and it will pop up at some point, usually when you're having a crisis, which makes the crisis so much bigger and, and more and more downward spiralling.

Yeah. Whereas if we acknowledge it and, and. Release it through the EFT and saying it at the same time we can move on to the more suggestive, maybe it's not so bad, maybe it's safe to let this go and then you can do the positive stuff it takes a little bit longer, but it's definitely worth it because the benefits are so much greater.
I think, allowing ourselves to feel those scary feelings and to voice them. ​ So often we are told we are not meant to aren’t we? ​ Especially, our generation has been told that we are not meant to do that. We're just supposed to sort of get on with it. Then we've come into this area where we do coaching and we have all access to all these other tools and we are kind of half in, half out.

So it all that reassurance, education, re-educating, our subconscious mind is so important so that we can make that transition and then be the best examples for our kids. And, not always the best examples because we won't always get it right but you know excepting I won’t always get it right and will get it wrong. I find it really easy to say sorry. I got that wrong and I'm really sorry about that. I can still get really angry when my kids don't do that. I'll get really angry and I need to have ways to cope with that because it's you know, I haven't had that in my life. ​ My husband would never, ever take responsibility for anything. Never acknowledge when he did anything wrong, ever. My parents did the same, especially my mom. So you know, bless her. She passed away a couple of years ago now, or just over a year, but you know, she was only doing what she could do. ​ But it still caused me harm. ​ And it's okay to verbalize that and, and say it because that is the reality. And that doesn't mean to say that I'm saying bad things about my mom. It's just saying that was the situation. Acceptance of the situation. Exactly.

Faye: Acceptance. Yeah. I talk a lot about acceptance and accepting, but accepting, as you say, not with the intention of just making do. ​ True acceptance is definitely powerful. And that's where, again, it is similar with weight loss. ​ When I started to accept and stopped fighting reality as much, accepted the past and that we are all a construct of our pasts and exactly where we are now because of our past we can release off some of that suffering and live a more fulfilled life, isn't it? And the more I find awareness of where something comes from it’s almost like in an instance I can go what that makes complete sense. ​ Whereas before I was fight, fight, fight. Where is it? Why is it? Why do I feel ​ this? I shouldn't feel this? Should Should Should!

Liz: Hundred percent. I love it when, when people have that realization (Liz’s dog joins the party 🤣). I had a new client today and she's finding her business really hard. She just can't, she's got all these plans, but she can't start on them. She can't actually do her email list and set up her Facebook page and I said, oh, you know, why'd you think that might be? And really get her sort of close her eyes, get her feeling into it. Well, if I do, then I might get rejected again. If I do that, then someone might criticize me. What does that remind you? I'm obviously simplifying it here. What does that remind you of? It reminded her of her marriage and her childhood. So is it any wonder why she's not doing that in her business? It’s very similar for weight loss. We do what we always do. ​ We might make a subconscious vow to remain loyal to our parents struggle or to rebel against them. The rebellion is usually conscious, for example, someone may have a mom who is quite overweight. My mine wasn't actually, but I'm just pretending for this. If my mom was quite overweight, then I might make a conscious decision that I'm not going to be cause I want to be healthy and I want to be slim and I want to feel good in my clothes. Because I saw the struggle that my mom went through. Well, that's great because you probably you succeed in being slim and fit, but you're probably always going to be having that battle in your head. So you are probably going to be a fat person in your head, which is I think just as bad cuz that's what I've been in the past, just as bad as actually being overweight. Yeah. And I'm maybe overweight, people might disagree with me, so I'm very conscious, you know, it's, so complex all of this but the subconscious fight with many people is I've got to remain loyal to my mom's struggle. So if my mom was overweight, then my subconscious is going to make sure I sabotage myself, and I will think I can't lose weight, that I stay this, this size, that I have health issues because then I'm honouring my mom's struggle and I'm not sort of doing better than her to make, to shame her and make her feel bad. ​ I don't think any of us would do that logically in our minds consciously, but the subconscious is, I've heard a stat, I think it's ​ 90% of the brain, only 10% of the brain of our actions come from conscious thoughts. , 90% are unconscious thoughts. You think if someone in your group is really struggling hopefully that might help them. ​ Are they remaining loyal, subconsciously loyal to one of their family's struggle?
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Faye: Yeah. And so many other things. ​ It's not necessarily even family. ​ It can be family, friends or things that have been said or done, but it can also be society as well. Culture. One of the things I talk about a lot is the habits that we form. You know, the plate clearing, the fact that we eat meal deals you know, all these little stories that we've gathered along the way about food that change our food relationships, you know, and so it's really diving into. It's diving into all of those. And jus what you said about the money mindset, it's never about the food. If you want true transformation, true food freedom and life freedom is about going beyond what you think the problem is and I think that's what you were trying to say when you were saying about, you know, the person who's. trying to fight and saying that, you know, I've got to be this person is, is that they're still suffering effectively. They’ll be shoulding all over themselves and saying how they've got to do this and they've got to do that, and they'll probably be damn right miserable even though yes, they may look the way that they expect. ​ It’s why I always say self-image, body image, it's so important if you are working on weight loss to lose it with love, which is again, something else that I would encourage, because otherwise, if you hate yourself all the way down, you'll still hate yourself at the bottom. And, and that's not the aim of it. It's not just about the body, it's about the life and about wanting to be happy in yourself and in your life wholeheartedly. This is why I also believe in health at every size, I'm not a size 8 muscle bound, atypical health coach that you perhaps would see out there. I'm just a real girl. But I'm somebody who, who found myself and have found life and happiness in that process, you know, which is different.

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I was just saying, that's the journey really. It was doing the inner work. ​ Identifying stories. ​ I still have cake and biscuits pretty much every day and I did the whole of my journey to 70 pounds down. It's not the food.
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Liz: Yeah. That's amazing.
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Faye: It was more about how I was eating it, when I was eating it, why. ​ Most importantly why. ​ Either out of habit, you know, toast. ​ Toast comes with two rounds of bread. I don’t know where that came from, but you could have one piece of toast, you know?

Liz: And loads of butter.

Faye: Yeah, for me, bread comes in, twos yes, it's because it goes in a sandwich but again, you can have a sandwich with one piece of bread. If that satisfies your hunger then that's absolutely fine. It's whatever. You know, whatever works. And it's just about playing about with quantity and quality. But again, for real transformation, it is about identifying, ​ as you say, those beliefs, those habits, and really saying where did they come from? And is that something that I want to keep? Getting that story out into the open, whether it be through journaling, EFT, coaching, the Belief Coding®️ that I'm going to do, you know, whatever modality works or a mix of all of them. You know, to just kind of get it out .

Liz: Absolutely, yeah. I think that's so important that I think everyone should try stuff. I mean, I call myself the EFT coach, but I use a load of other modalities as well. That's my main tool and I usually put it into other things but I am biased, but I do also think EFT works. There's only one person it hasn't worked on in my experience, and that was my mother-in-law, so make of ​ that what you will. But yeah, I’ve done matrix re-imprinting. I've even done some past life stuff, hypnotherapy, timeline, NLP, there's so many things and I think we can just, enjoy trying them and finding out what works. And also I think especially with weight loss cause it's such a big thing. Weight loss and body image. I think it's really important to not think, ‘oh, I've wasted all that money’ or ‘all that time’ or ‘all that effort’ on that course and that course because whatever's happened, it's got you to where you are now and that's where you're meant to be. Where you are now, whatever you've got right in front of you, maybe that's the thing that will work. So I think never giving up and always knowing I might crack it this year. But then in a year's time I might have a new challenge that might push me back a bit but I was rocking it.

Before my divorce, I just had to shrink because I was grieving for my relationship before it was even over and then various other things. Then after my mum died and my ex-husband turned on me and I thought I'm an EFT coach, I teach this shit and I'm really suffering at the moment. ​ But it's okay because life does go up and down and I think the vision of a perfect life just is nonsense, absolute nonsense and it causes so much destruction, that thought alone. Yeah. So, you know, if you do crack it, great, but just be. ​ I say I am a recovering food addict or, you know, recovering person that has issues with their body. I don't think I'll ever be healed. I have to keep working on it. ​ I have to keep doing it. ​ Well, I don't, I can't imagine not. It's like a recovering alcoholic. You know, you still have to go to the meetings. You still have to be really aware.

Faye: And I think, I would imagine that that works the same with the money, cuz it certainly works in the weight loss. You ideally have to be very mindful of which method you pick, and this is why we yo-yo diet because we in too hard on something, or again, we pick something that's just not sustainable.

It is the same with business, isn't it? One of the things when I started my business I wanted it all yesterday. I got completely stuck in the results line and wanted it yesterday. And then, of course, all the judgment thoughts come in of why isn't this done? Why isn't that done? I'm not doing enough. ​ It all comes back down to judgment. It's always the biggest saboteur. And then, when you're in that judgment, that's when overwhelm comes and then doubt. You are in to flight, fright or freeze. ​ Whereas actually if you can recognize you are exactly where you need to be and have that patience it feels better.

It's why it's important to learn to sail your own ship. That is why don’t give my ladies a strict method like you do at a slimming club and say, right, okay, eat this many calories, or do this, or do that or do the other. We work on intuitive eating and so I give them the framework that helps them figure it out based on their life. ​ ​

It’s been such a powerful thing for me and so I try and bring into my business and my money mindset. ​ So it was so interesting when you said you put what you knew about money and put it into your divorce work because I do think that there are so many parallels between what we do. ​ I was literally just an email for something earlier that, and said ‘I went for weight loss but actually what I found was so much more because I found that I could then use the tools that I'd gathered for anything in life’.

At the start of my journey had anybody asked me I'd have said, “life is fine. I'm absolutely fine”. I've got no problems. I don't have any hidden skeletons in my cupboard or whatever. Now, journaling, every morning, Scribbling away. It’s as you say that suppression, I told myself that I was fine for so many years, whereas actually I wasn't. I was just holding it down and it was no wonder that every time I’d hold it, hold it down, hold it down, and then all of a sudden it would explode. There would be peaks and troughs, and potentially of the weight and the weight loss where as now it is steadier.
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Liz: I would imagine the peaks and troughs go more with the ebbs and flows of the other stuff that's going on in your life externally. Yeah. Not that you are just. victim and blame, not that you are creating it in the past, but you were much more governed by your inner thoughts.
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Faye: Yes, in the past, I was literally on autopilot of crash and burn, crash, burn, crash, burn Whereas now, ​ I say, I have my moments everybody does, where you're not, not perhaps feeling yourself. ​ Most of it's hormone related for me. I think I was telling you that. when we met.

Liz: Oh, yeah, yeah. We had a good chat about that.
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Faye: Sorry, I stop talking about that.

Liz: No, we could do a whole other episode on that. I love it talking about hormones.

Faye: I try and fight the reality of that situation and then go into judgment mode of, I shouldn't feel this, and this is rubbish. And you know, women don't have it easy. Whatever it just gets worse, you know? My suffering gets worse. So again, I am trying to use the modalities that we've got to try and release that off

Liz: Yeah, it is brilliant. It's so relieving. We are so lucky to have these tools and I love what you are doing and you're sharing this with so many people and you are teaching, I love what you said, you're teaching them to be the captain of their own ship. But I feel we are also giving them the sailors that sail that ship with them?

Faye: Yeah. We are one of the shipmates, we've got the rudder, the sail and then maybe we’ll blow, blow, blow the wind in the sail to make them go a bit faster. ​ I love a good ship analogy me. Anything that you do or I do, again, all of our clients, they'll go on a journey, won't they? You are the boat, you're at your dock. ​ Where do you wanna be? That's the island we're going to get to. Maybe we need to divert to this island
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Liz: I love it.

Faye: And it's all part of the course, isn't it? It's all part of the map of life.

Liz: Totally. Oh, I love the sayings. A ship was built for the high seas, it wasn't built to stay in the harbour. ​ It has to come into the harbour because it needs to be repaired and maintained and painted and cleaned and all that malarkey. But it's fine. As long as we are doing that, then it will survive the high seas. I think, I think you're doing a brilliant job for that and our regular maintenance.

Faye: Maintenance, so important. We do need community. Again, something I was writing about earlier really? Which is always quite funny how these things come up. I find that when I'm talking to my members at the weekend, it’s like they were in my head because I've writing about that this week, you know? We start talking about similar of the things. It's always quite crazy how that comes up. It’s the power of people and a community behind you. I mean, that's why I went in for a membership. It was a big thing. I had a Facebook group when I was losing my weight, I had my tribe. ​ You can just have a tribe of one with your coach or but again, it's so important to have support mechanisms around you with people who are doing the same or similar work and people that are, supportive of your journey. ​ You need your shipmates.

Liz: Sure. And that is the beauty of social media now and Facebook especially. ​ I know some people are like Facebook friends aren't real friends, they're fake friends. But actually, there are so many people I've met who I would say are, quite a lot actually that I've never even met and I might never meet, but there are others that I have met them and when I have, I felt ​ I'm just seeing a friend that I've known for years. Because I have known them for years. It's just known them electronically.

Faye: Yeah, I think this interaction zoom is just the same really. ​ We meet, we talk. ​ I actually did meet one of my members in real life. ​ I've known people now for. ​ Where are we at now? ​ Four years. I haven’t met them in real life. Bit I met one of them recently and she said “You're real” and I said no “You’re real!” ​ We marvelled how we could see more of each other than just out head and shoulders. ​ She said she thought I’d be taller!. ​ I said “No I’m only 5ft 1!”
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Liz: A lot of people say I'm a bit psychic, or ​ just intuitive or whatever. But I feel you need to do events with your membership, you know, they'd just be amazing.

Faye: We were going to have a little gathering. A little, a little retreat but yeah, I'd be up for that at some point.

Liz: I think you'd be amazing. ​ Helping women in the area that you are it’s so important.

Faye: I think all of the work that all us do in the heart-centered and coaching is arenas, is all important work. ​ It's just so transformational, isn't it?

I'm sure that you are the same, I've not been able to get of my soap box. Anybody who sits still long enough get to listen, get the breakdown of why I think it's so amazing.

Liz: ​ You walk your talk and that's brilliant. It's great to see.

Faye: I am very conscious that we've gone over again.

Liz: Yeah, we have a bit.

Faye: We'll end the broadcast and love you all and leave you there and we'll catch you next week!
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